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I believe the Reel ADT is a similar concept but emulating it being achieved with tape rather than digital delay. I think what you've created is essentially the Waves Doubler plugin. I really like the ADT "Effect", I just don't consider it a vocal double in the truest since, YMMV. You can see the delay times hovering within a few ms randomly all the time via parameter modulation's randomizer. That said, I built something similar minus the bells and whistles which gives a light chorusy motion that's great for solos and possibly vocals. I don't own it so I don't know - looking at the product description on the page it only describes replicating the fake double tracking from abbey road/lennon which isn't like a real double IMHO. One of us is tripping cause I remember it being literally nothing like mistakable for a sung vocal. I don't think I have the plugin to try it again so will wait to see what others think. I'm far from some "golden ears" person who exaggerates microscopic subtleties.
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I mean, if everyone else says it's very close I'd be open to the idea I'm maybe misremembering or something but I'm genuinely surprised anyone thinks it sounds realistic. I have to ask everyone else - am I tripping? Does the ADT plugin, or even the real thing from the Beatles etc., sound in the ball park of a real vocal double? As has been mentioned a few times, it isn't really trying to be realistic. Not at all, the reason I posted that is because I don't find it one of these subtle things like when someone doesn't think an an amp sim sounds like an amp - it just doesn't sound the same as a double, it's its own sound and more like a chorus. Good for you! I, myself, did some tests, where (in the final mix) I just couldn't tell the "real" and the "fake" apart. Wow, that's quite a difference then! You must be extremely skilled. They almost all have a doubler section which is essentially a throwback to the eventide H3000 - the box that started it all. Just take a look at any of the Waves all-in-one vocal plugins. Its SUPER common on background vocals and even in conjunction with actual doubling on leads. This is usually dialed WAY back unless your name is Ozzy Osborne. They are then vocaligned to near perfection making the effect much slicker than in previous decades where the natural timing differences made it more obvious.ĭoubler plugins really get used more as stereo chorus effect adding width and motion. Many pop/rock/country chorus vocals are physically doubled almost by default. I do have some widening techniques to spread the lead vocal across the middle 30-45 degrees of the stereo field but that is usually unrelated to doubling.īoth techniques are wildly popular. Real doubling is far more common than most realize and I agree it typically sounds better if that is what one is wanting to create. I'd just urge you though, if you do prefer real double, is 3 minutes of boredom really insufferable to get a better sound? Not that you'd necessarily prefer real doubles to the Beatles style sound, it's all personal preference. I'd imagine the modern digital methods would get infinitely closer. The waves one does get that Beatles sound big time but do you really think it sounds like a real double? I don't think it does at all. Yeah Lennon, like me, only liked hearing his own voice when doubled. Well, because it bores the freaking hell out of me!Īnd funny enough, that’s what John Lennon expressed to his engineer at the time, who then came up with the original Reel ADT Abbey Road I sometimes get questions like: “Why don’t you just sing it twice?” Not the real thing, but carefully configured to a certain type of voce it will be convincingly enough in the final mix, and it will save time. But then I found Waves Reel ADT which as far as I am concerned is the closest you can get. After all, it’s all basically about pitch, timing and accentuation. It bothered me for years that I couldn’t save time by letting some plugin do the job. Backing vocals, always at least two times (each). As far as the iZotope demonstration video goes, it sound pretty promising, I must say!Īs a strict routine, I have always doubled vocal/voices, even if I wouldn’t necessarily use it all in the final mix.